Legion Theorycrafting Preview

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Introduction

With EJ dead, I've asked the mods if I can move my theorycrafting information here for Legion. In general, this thread is going to be nerdy, involve simulations, and may include a bunch of math for tryhard sim nerds. There is certainly plenty to say about "feel" of specs, but this thread is really meant more for us to figure out theoretical limitations of specs, even if they may require perfect and unreasonable play. This is not meant to replace the good work that is going on at the Trueshot Hunter lodge. It's a complement and really just a dump of ongoing simulations being done for hunters in Legion as well as future general guidance that are results from sims. It'll take me a week or two to get my own tools updated, there are going to be lots of bugs, but we'll work through them. Patience is appreciated, but if you want to yell at me about a bug/problem, it certainly won't be the first time on MMO-Champ !

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Simulations

Want to know how your gear compares to other upgrades in current content Click on any of the following. If you are having trouble locating your trinket, try using Ctrl+F to bring up your browser's "find" function, and then enter part of the item name (e.g. "kihra") and then move through the file to locate the gear you are looking for with wf, socket, etc.

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  • APL
  • Races: Results | Simcraft Source
  • Enchants: 1 Target | 3 Targets | Simcraft Source
  • Stats: Plot | Simcraft source
  • Artifact (Results | Simcraft source)
    • Relics (Results | Simcraft Source)
  • Legendaries (1 Target | 3 Target | 6 Target | Simcraft Source)
  • Talents:
    • WoD Gear: (Results | Simcraft source)
    • Legion Mythic Dungeon Gear: (1 Target | Simcraft source)
  • Gear (uses Simcraft Explorer):
    • Higher budget:
      • Trinkets (Legion)
      • Weapons (T18 Prepatch)
    • Medium budget:
      • Feet (T18 Prepatch)
      • Head (Legion)
      • Shoulders (Legion)
    • Lower budget:
      • Necks (T18 Prepatch)
      • Waists (T18 Prepatch)
      • Wrists (T18 Prepatch)

MM
  • APL
  • Races: Results | Simcraft Source
  • Enchants: 1 Target | 3 Targets | Simcraft Source
  • Stats: Plot (Simcraft source)
  • AoE: (3 Target | 5 Target | Simcraft source)
  • Artifact (Results | Source)
    • Relics (Results | Simcraft Source)
  • Legendaries (1 Target | 3 Target | 6 Target | Simcraft Source)
  • Talents:
    • WoD Gear: (Results | Simcraft source)
    • Legion Mythic Dungeon Gear: (1 Target | Simcraft source)
  • Gear (uses Simcraft Explorer):
    • Higher budget:
      • Trinkets (Legion)
      • Weapons (T18 Prepatch)
    • Medium budget:
      • Feet (T18 Prepatch)
      • Head (Legion)
      • Shoulders (Legion)
    • Lower budget:
      • Necks (T18 Prepatch)
      • Waists (T18 Prepatch)
      • Wrists (T18 Prepatch)

SV
  • APL
  • Races: Results | Simcraft Source
  • Enchants: 1 Target | 3 Targets | Simcraft Source
  • Stats: Plot (Simcraft source)
  • Artifact (Results | Source)
    • Relics (Results | Simcraft Source)
  • Legendaries (1 Target | 3 Target | 6 Target | Simcraft Source)
  • Talents:
    • WoD Gear: (Results | Simcraft source)
    • Legion Mythic Dungeon Gear: (Simcraft source)
  • Gear (uses Simcraft Explorer):
    • Higher budget:
      • Trinkets (Legion)
      • Weapons (T18 Prepatch)
    • Medium budget:
      • Feet (T18 Prepatch)
      • Head (Legion)
      • Shoulders (Legion)
    • Lower budget:
      • Necks (T18 Prepatch)
      • Waists (T18 Prepatch)
      • Wrists (T18 Prepatch)

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Likely questions / comments

1.) Why have this guide, sims, etc. in addition to Azor's guides

It's always a good idea to have multiple viewpoints into the hunter class. Azor looks at huntering through a different, and arguably better, perspective at times. If his guide is all you need to maximize your effectiveness and find answers, then you don't have to come to this guide. However, I promise I'll keep this guide and sim listing as updated as I can, just as I have historically done at ElitistJerks, before it imploded and died.

In general, you're probably safer to ask questions like "is this new trinket better " here than you would be bothering Azor about that.

2.) What is up with Stats What does this mean

Instantaneous stat scale factors may be useful for Pawn or other means of making snap decisions, but to ensure that nothing odd is going on, I'm also including stat plots for the trend of regemming for different stats. I'm using 200 stat increments, which may no longer be entirely appropriate, since we didn't get the 200 stat gems we were hoping for. I'll probably adjust this to gem weights for Legion soon.

3.) Wait, is this a guide

Not yet, no. It's just a dump of sim results that are almost certainly going to need to be updated constantly with APL changes, gear updates and what not. As I update Simcraft Explorer with all legion gear, I'll switch this over from looking at gear up to T18M and start looking at T19+ gear, as we did all this expansion.


4.) Oh, God! The MM class trinket sims high. Do I have to use that

The sim is using distance=40y, the default setting. This is not a very useful trinket, basically anywhere, as has been the case all HFC. Try to look past its sim performance.

5.) You've done something wrong. You're wrong, your family's wrong, and you should feel bad.

These are all undoubtedly true. If you can point out problems with the sims or inferences from sims here, it's appreciated. Nothing here is meant to be misleading.


6.) What can I do to help make this guide/thread better

Bump the thread to keep the discussion alive. Ask questions about what you'd like to see theorycrafted. Offer your own simulations!

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